Jay Sage: Hello and welcome to another edition of
the case to the Chat
here in the Office of entertainment. Jay Sage
here with Jared Feldman.
The topic is Johnny
Depp, who just celebrated his 49th birthday on Saturday. Happy birthday, of course, but with some failures in a
row, are 50 a change of address?
Jared Feldman: Depp has had a rollercoaster of a career. After gaining credibility with the first films as What's Eating Gilbert Grape and Edward Scissorhands, who fell off the map for a few years before returning to fame with the role of Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean franchise . While the pirates are still making money, not the draw it used to be, and mixed with the recent failures, Depp's career is back on a channel.
Sage: I think it's one of the best character actors in Hollywood, but you are right that he was not very big source of income until the unexpected box office monster that became Pirates franchise (although largely because Keith Richards himself inspired antics Depp Jack Sparrow). Along with the films mentioned above, painted memorable characters in Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd, and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. But after years of delight in the absurd, we have become accustomed to it and films like recent shadows simply do not have that pop.
Jared Feldman: Depp has had a rollercoaster of a career. After gaining credibility with the first films as What's Eating Gilbert Grape and Edward Scissorhands, who fell off the map for a few years before returning to fame with the role of Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean franchise . While the pirates are still making money, not the draw it used to be, and mixed with the recent failures, Depp's career is back on a channel.
Sage: I think it's one of the best character actors in Hollywood, but you are right that he was not very big source of income until the unexpected box office monster that became Pirates franchise (although largely because Keith Richards himself inspired antics Depp Jack Sparrow). Along with the films mentioned above, painted memorable characters in Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd, and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. But after years of delight in the absurd, we have become accustomed to it and films like recent shadows simply do not have that pop.
Feldman: It seems a problem
twice. Depp has
to be the center of attention if
your role requires it or not. Not that he's a pig of the screen, it's just his character ends strangely attractive impairment of those whom he shares the screen with. It also has a strange obsession
with always appear in the film
Tim Burton's weird
year, which are mostly too abstract and crazy to
attract wider audience.
Wise: As Steven Hyden said in Grantland, Depp and Burton went through a period that brought the best out of each other, the sense of devotion Burton and Depp macabre humor strange roles like a glove. But at some point, there was a loss for the inspiration of the ideas incorporated - Alice in Wonderland, for example. And suddenly, we realize that Depp has been doing the same thing over and over again. Make Pasty, strange British accent, black humor.
Feldman: I would say Alice in Wonderland was an exception and not the rule. The strangeness of the work of Lewis Carroll played to perfection in the sensitivity of Burton, the Mad Hatter and the same with that of Depp. He had a large fan base and a very attractive due to the variety of people involved. I must commend Depp is really the only movie I can think of where he played a supporting character in the last decade. In the rest of his films that he has been the big man of the screen if his character called for it or not.
Wise: As Steven Hyden said in Grantland, Depp and Burton went through a period that brought the best out of each other, the sense of devotion Burton and Depp macabre humor strange roles like a glove. But at some point, there was a loss for the inspiration of the ideas incorporated - Alice in Wonderland, for example. And suddenly, we realize that Depp has been doing the same thing over and over again. Make Pasty, strange British accent, black humor.
Feldman: I would say Alice in Wonderland was an exception and not the rule. The strangeness of the work of Lewis Carroll played to perfection in the sensitivity of Burton, the Mad Hatter and the same with that of Depp. He had a large fan base and a very attractive due to the variety of people involved. I must commend Depp is really the only movie I can think of where he played a supporting character in the last decade. In the rest of his films that he has been the big man of the screen if his character called for it or not.
Sage: I guess so,
but should not the focus of Alice in have been the debutante Mia Wasikowska in
the lead role? Instead,
it looked like Depp and Anne Hathaway ate attention along with the marketing
(not that this was their fault, of course) in roles that are only tangential to
the original plot. And
while we're on the subject, I was just a fan of interpretation. Burton,
usually under his belt, this is style over substance and the strangeness Alice
intends to speak for itself. In
this version, the phantasmagoria languid scenescapes included, along with the
beast of the kingdom which is not part of it at all. Would
be like Romeo and Juliet, but the scene is essential to Iago.
Feldman: I frankly forgot that Anne Hathaway, Alice was not playing. Its part of the marketing campaign, but simply the fact that a movie needs great players to succeed. As for the movie itself, it was too easy for Burton to go alone to his own folly usual override everything. For this reason the film suffered from visual orgy of special effects and even more bizarre interpretation of the original work. Is it just safe to say that Burton used only as a puppet unhinged Depp in his movies?
Sage: I think that's the problem, but is actually a common occurrence. Whatever delegate parody of himself if exceeded. I think the last creation, Dark Shadows, is proof of that. A couple of decades ago? Reimagining deliciously good of a TV show 70. Now? Well, I have seen and nothing less than hilarity point barely registers on our radar.
Feldman: I can not really complain Depp for his failure. Most people under 40 probably never knew it was a remake, and the marketing campaign tried to portray the movie as a vampire comedy / drama of soap opera family. It was too much to understand and keep your distance from the audience. Depp is the perfect actor, but Burton's own settings are again well above to give a great attraction.
Sage: I think the problem goes both ways too. Burton's best film of the year 2000 (in my humble opinion) is Big Fish 2003. The distinctive feature? It stars Ewan McGregor and Johnny Depp. In fact, the supporting roles (Jessica Lange, Danny DeVito, Albert Finney, and others) do an excellent job in carrying out his part out of the spotlight, we both agree that Depp has difficulty doing so.
Feldman: We have found that perhaps the crutch of Burton is Depp? That films are better separated, and Depp is already quite strange? And playing a character rather than Burton's too weird to be attractive?
Wise: I do not know if it's a matter of being too weird, I just think you need a break from the stranger. Even in The Rum Diary 2011 (where Depp returned to Hunter S. Thompson as well), the role was not supernatural or fantastic, but could not take place without mentioning the eccentricity of human characteristics. It seems that everything that Depp does not have to be a kind of ... great. Take Edward Scissorhands as a counter - that is inhuman, curious and strange, but also unsafe, damaged and ultimately brave. I want to see more like this, something that can connect to.
Feldman: His brilliance on paper with Burton almost typecast him for the future, but was never able to get a role that was as multidimensional. While doing so as Jack Sparrow, for example, is hard to believe that his character is anything but a drunken pirate. Scissorhands was a singular role that is impossible to replicate, despite trying several times. Maybe your best option would be to carry out a function entirely foreign to him, so do not have to rely on past characters in the film of Burton for influence.
Sage: I agree and I think you have to pull a Tom Hanks. Recognize their status as middle-aged actor and collect a series of difficult human lead roles along with several humorous cameos in projects of other fun. Anyway, that will do it for this edition of the chat wrap. Check back soon for more on your home of all things entertaining.
Feldman: I frankly forgot that Anne Hathaway, Alice was not playing. Its part of the marketing campaign, but simply the fact that a movie needs great players to succeed. As for the movie itself, it was too easy for Burton to go alone to his own folly usual override everything. For this reason the film suffered from visual orgy of special effects and even more bizarre interpretation of the original work. Is it just safe to say that Burton used only as a puppet unhinged Depp in his movies?
Sage: I think that's the problem, but is actually a common occurrence. Whatever delegate parody of himself if exceeded. I think the last creation, Dark Shadows, is proof of that. A couple of decades ago? Reimagining deliciously good of a TV show 70. Now? Well, I have seen and nothing less than hilarity point barely registers on our radar.
Feldman: I can not really complain Depp for his failure. Most people under 40 probably never knew it was a remake, and the marketing campaign tried to portray the movie as a vampire comedy / drama of soap opera family. It was too much to understand and keep your distance from the audience. Depp is the perfect actor, but Burton's own settings are again well above to give a great attraction.
Sage: I think the problem goes both ways too. Burton's best film of the year 2000 (in my humble opinion) is Big Fish 2003. The distinctive feature? It stars Ewan McGregor and Johnny Depp. In fact, the supporting roles (Jessica Lange, Danny DeVito, Albert Finney, and others) do an excellent job in carrying out his part out of the spotlight, we both agree that Depp has difficulty doing so.
Feldman: We have found that perhaps the crutch of Burton is Depp? That films are better separated, and Depp is already quite strange? And playing a character rather than Burton's too weird to be attractive?
Wise: I do not know if it's a matter of being too weird, I just think you need a break from the stranger. Even in The Rum Diary 2011 (where Depp returned to Hunter S. Thompson as well), the role was not supernatural or fantastic, but could not take place without mentioning the eccentricity of human characteristics. It seems that everything that Depp does not have to be a kind of ... great. Take Edward Scissorhands as a counter - that is inhuman, curious and strange, but also unsafe, damaged and ultimately brave. I want to see more like this, something that can connect to.
Feldman: His brilliance on paper with Burton almost typecast him for the future, but was never able to get a role that was as multidimensional. While doing so as Jack Sparrow, for example, is hard to believe that his character is anything but a drunken pirate. Scissorhands was a singular role that is impossible to replicate, despite trying several times. Maybe your best option would be to carry out a function entirely foreign to him, so do not have to rely on past characters in the film of Burton for influence.
Sage: I agree and I think you have to pull a Tom Hanks. Recognize their status as middle-aged actor and collect a series of difficult human lead roles along with several humorous cameos in projects of other fun. Anyway, that will do it for this edition of the chat wrap. Check back soon for more on your home of all things entertaining.
